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NA -> TT Conversion Details and Price Breakdown
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Completing this conversion has been quite educational and it also came very economically. I have spent a relatively minimal amount of money and I have rebuilt all components to manufacturer specifications myself. Since I also converted an NA engine to TT spec, there are a lot of items that have to be dealt with. Under piston squirters, turbo oil and coolant lines, fuel rail and injectors are just a few of the many items that differ in the engine. All have to be addressed accordingly and some of them are not just direct bolt on replacements. The price breakdown is listed below and a parts list is included at the bottom.. |
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Turbos, exhaust manifolds, intercoolers: Rebuild kits for both turbos: Machine work: |
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1994 VG30DE w/63K mi. Not Shown: 550cc/min Injectors |
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Picture of Engine Parts: |
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Engine block w/ crank Honing and Hotbath |
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Upper Plenum, Throttle Body, CAS and Coolant Pipe Polish:
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Pistons: NA vs. TT. Note the two holes on the bottom of the TT pistons. These connect to a hollow ring which oil flows through for piston crown cooling. Way cool idea. Not shown: |
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Headwork -Visit to shrink: Both heads cleaned, intake valves lapped, exhaust valves replaced with TT spec valves and lapped, pressure tested and head resurfaced (.002"). |
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Total I will have a Z with a 0mile engine, 0mile turbos, 63K mile tranx, polished aluminum parts, twin turbo @ 400HP+ for the cost of: 1991 300ZX - $7125 (in
mint condition) TOTAL: $11085 Also consider I will be
selling the original NA engine for ~$1500 (or
possibly for $2500 after total rebuild) Total conversion cost after
expected returns: $1460 Can you buy a 12second TT of the same caliber for $8585? Of course, all of this comes at no labor cost because I did it all myself. I won't even start to think about how much time this would bill for, but, I have the knowledge gained from doing all of this which is invaluable in and of itself. The beast also runs 12 second 1/4mile passes consistently. :) |
TT Radiator: $100 Downpipes: $75 Stock recircs: Free Mid Pipes: Free HardPipes: $80 Misc Rubber Hoses: $20 Injector Resistors: $10 Volvo Oil Cooler: $10
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Conversion Parts List
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TT Pistons & Rings |
TT Under Piston Oil Jets (3) | TT Exhaust Valves (12) inconel | Turbo Oil Lines (3), Banjo Bolts(2) & 3way Connector (pass side engine block) |
| TT Oil Filter Bracket | TT Spark plugs (or appropriate plug) | TT Fuel rail and Injectors | TT Oil Pan (or add return pipes to NA) |
| TT O2 Sensors | 3ft 9.5mm fuel hose (for turbo cool) | Turbochargers (2) | Turbine Housing Heat Shields (2) |
| TT Exhaust Manifolds (2) | TT Exhaust Manifold Heat Shields (2) | Precats (or downpipes) (2) | Midpipes (2) |
| TT AC Condenser | AC piping (from firewall forward) | Intake plumbing (20 pieces total) | Intercoolers & Mounting Brackets (2) |
| TT Radiator mounts | Oil Cooling Core & Hoses | TT Wiring Harness | Recirc Valves or BOVs |
| TT Flywheel (or equivalent) | TT Clutch (or equivalent) | TT Starter | TT coolant hoses |
| TT Fuel Pump & TT oil pump | TT ECU (or JWT POP & Jets) | TT Front Fascia (or aftermarket) | TT Radiator & Shroud |
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The Details This list only serves as a guideline for the parts that need to be changed but I have detailed why those components need to be replaced as well as given a general guideline for the conversion itself below. In addition to this, I would strongly suggest having a Nissan service manual for your Z as it will be one of your best tools in this process. Fuel Pump: The fuel pumps are different between the two different models. They appear the same from the outside, however, the pump mechanism in the TT has a higher capacity than the NA. The only way to tell the difference between the two is the fact that the NA has a number "14" cast into the backplate whereas the TT has a "16" in it. This definately needs to be replaced when you convert your Z. The NA pump will be able to keep up with the demand up to a certain point, but I found that was short lived and the pump could not maintain proper pressure as the fuel demand rose with RPM. Oil Pump: The oil pumps used on the NA engine ARE different than on the TT. The TT pump is significantly larger to prodive ample pressure/flow for the turbos and oil cooler system. I built my TT engine from an NA engine and did not change the oil pump out because I was under the impression that the pumps were actually the same.. I pulled the engine the weekend of 8/24/02 to change the oil pump and connectoing rod bearings. Oil pressure before the change was ~50-60psi max and now the needle comes up to 90psi at high RPM. It is definately at least 10psi per 1000RPM, and better than that on the top end. Cooling: The electric fan on the TT is a two speed unit and the NA is a single speed unit. This really can be overlooked. But, the radiators are different. The TT radiator mounts are different than the NA mounts and there are no holes with nice welded nuts to just make this a "bolt on" conversion.. You will have to drill holes to make this work. Same goes with the AC condenser. These are two of the easiest parts of the conversion though. The intake plumbing also has mounting points which will need to be fabricated. As parts are being installed, sheetmetal and a torch will come in handy. ECU: Well folks, breaking news here, the NA and TT ECU are essentially interchangeable. You cannot use a 5pseed ECU in an automatic application, but you can go the other way. The NA ECU is missing a few resistors and transistors which are used to complete the circuitry for the boost control solenoids. What this means is that you either need to use a boost controller or connect pin 25 to pin 50 of the ECU (ground). A stage 3 TT ECU can be used with the NA harness as well but it will lack this function. I have on a few occasions soldered in these additional circuits and was able to convert a 5 speed to automatic and an NA ECU to TT spec. The manual transmission: There are some minor differences between the NA and TT transmission.The TT flywheel is ~4mm larger in diameter so in order to have the correct starter gear to flywheel gear clearance, you need to use (1) 2.5mm washers (one on each bolt) to space the starter away from the transmission bell. If you have access to a machine shop, or would just rather have it done right, a plate could be machined to take up the slack.. However, I have been using washers in my setup without any issues. Since my Z is manual shift, I dont have any information on the automatic trannies. You'll have to do some homework to figure that out. Oil cooler: This is highly recommended. The stock unit is kinda small/expensive and finding a used stock cooler for a respectable price just didn't come to me. There are a ton of units out there that can be had for cheap and the hardware to use an aftermarket unit isnt expensive either. The TT(only) oil filter bracket has a pipe to attach the outflow hose to the cooler and the return pipe from the cooler connects to the oil pan. I picked up an oil cooler from a local junkyard that came off of a 4 cylinder Volvo turbo 'something'. I didn't pay attention to the model of the car, it just had this really nicely sized cooler in it and I pulled it. I paid ten bucks for the thing! I bought 8mm fuel hose and a few hose clamps to hook everything up and it works beautifully. Fuel Injectors: On pre 1994 models the fuel rails on both the TT andthe NA are the same. You can install TT injectors into the NA fuel rail if you a building an NA engine to TT spec. On1994 and up models, the injectors are from different manufacturers and the fuel rails are different between the NA and TT. In order to put TT injectors on an NA engine (for 1994+ models), you will need the TT fuel rail and you will have to grind the lower plenum a bit to allow the rail to fit. Do this when the lower plenum is off of the engine as aluminum dust could cause problems if it gets into the valves or cylinders. Because there are no fuelrail->lower plenum seals for putting a TT fuel rail on an NA lower plenum (for '94+models only), you will have to get some o-rings to put on the end of the injector cups on the fuel rail and also remove the plastic fuel rail spacers to get a proper fit and good seal on the NA lower plenum. This was one of the trickier steps in the process because there isn't any room for error when grinding the lower plenum, fitting the orings, and bolting it all in. If one of them didn't seal, the only time to find out is once everything is in the car and you hear obvious hissing. :) Not a good time to find out. Turbos: Turbo oil and coolant lines are a bit tricky to figure out, but it's simple one you know their routes and the associated hardware that is used(isn't it always?). The two metal (20mm) coolant pipes on the back of the engine provide coolant to the heater core for the AC system. The pipe coming directly off the passenger side head is where the coolant flows outward from the cylinder head. The other pipe that runs between the heads to the water pump is the suction side. Both of the two heater core pipes have smaller (9.5mm) pipes that come off of them, two per pipe. These normally supply coolant to the throttle bodies. Run your turbo coolant lines directly from the small pipe fittings and eliminate the throttle body cooling circuit. The TB coolant circuit heats up the throttle bodies, which will heat up your intake charge and lower power as well as raise the probability of detonation. Just bypass it and be happy you did. It will not be detrimental to engine life at all, and it could be argued that it actually has a positive effect on engine longevity. The oil supply for the turbos comes right off the side of the block and there are two blocking bolts to remove to gain access to the pressurized gallies. The driver side turbo oil supply galley is on the side of the block near the front edge and down near the oil pan edge. The passenger oil supply is near the back of the block in the middle (vertically). These blocking bolts need to be removed when the engine is disassembled and the gallies need to be thoroughly flushed to remove any oil coke or metal shavings. Boost & BOVs: Setting up the wastegate actuator lines is pretty straightforward and this should be easy to figure out, especially if you are going to use a boost controller. The instructions on how to set it up are going to be in the installation manual. :-P The same goes for BOVs if you plan to use them. I have heard of people running as much as 20psi on stock recircs without leak, and they may even go higher. This same person replaced them with BOVs when he put bigger turbos/ICs and upped the boost but I believe that they will still hold beyond that. Manifold pressure/vacuum is directed to the BOVs control diaphragm and under high boost, that pressure actually works to hold the recirc closed so I think they're good all the way up to whatever you want to run. However, if you want to run a bleeder system using welding tips/jets, all you need to do is buy the hose, a few 'T' connectors from AutoZone and some welding tips from Home Depot. Run a line from the boost hose connector to the wastegate actuator with as boost jet installed in the hose on the boost pipe side. A few inches back you need to install a "T" connector that has (2)1/4" pipe inlets and one 1/8" inlet. The two 1/4" inlets need to connect the line you have installed. The other 1/8" connector needs to connect to a rubber hose leading down to the metal pipe just before the turbo. There is a nipple in there to attach it to. You need to do this on both sides. Using a 0.035" welding tip in this configuration produced 14.7psi of boost in my Z. Oxygen Sensors: O2 sensors are the same, dont worry about changing them out. Pistons & Oil Jets: The under piston oil jets are different between the two models. The NA jets aim toward the center/bottom of the piston whereas the TT jets aim toward the side/bottom of the piston. They actually shoot oil right into one of the holes that leads to a galley just under the piston crown for cooling purposes. See picture above of pistons for a better idea of this. If you use aftermarket forged pistons, it is adviseable to use the NA squirters as none of the aftermarket pistons have the cooling channel and the TT jets will unevenly cool the piston. This could be an issue with forged pistons as they expand/contract much more because of their higher grain density. Variations in temperatures across the piston crowns will cause the piston to become oddly shaped and cause cylinder/piston wear or even worse, the ring lands will pinch the rings and you'll lose compression and the engine will quit. Exhaust: Midpipes must be replaced. Mid pipes are the section of the exhaust system just after the precats. They also include the main catalytic converters which cannot be removed, only punched out. Clutch: The TT uses a clutch booster to ease clutch actuation which is very similar to the brake booster and located just to the lower right of the brake booster. Although it is not necessary to put this in your NA for the conversion, it will make shifting a bit easier on an aftermarket clutch. Aftermarket clutches use (2500psi+ pressure plate), so it may be adviseable to acquire the booster components and install it when you do the clutch. You may find it very difficult to shift without it. I have installed a TT clutch in my conversion and I am not using the booster. It is holding the power very well and believe it or not, the clutch actually feels identical to when I had the NA clutch in there. Go figure. The RPS pressure plate I am using (sport series) offers 15% greater clamping force too.q Super HICAS: Forget the Super HICAS - its lame anyway. :-) Get yourself a nice set of shocks and coilover springs so you get the benefit of having an adjustable suspension system. Add a set of sway bars and replace your suspension bushings and you'll be well set.
The Conversion You will need to prepare yourself and your work area for about two full days of wrenching. A car lift is ideal, but that's not something that everyone has access to. A floorjack and a good reliable set of jackstands will be in order. An engine hoist and associated chaining is necessary. All of the other 'general' tools I wont mention here, just grab the tool you need and go at it. There is an order to follow in doing the conversion, most of it is obvious, but as for my conversion there were a few things that I wish I had done in different order to ease the process. Here's my notes.. 1. Remove trans 13. Inspect engine bay. Look for areas of leakage from the
steering rack and note. You are now ready to install the engine and connect wiring harness, install radiator, intake pipes, exhaust system, and drivetrain. The oil cooler hoses need to be cut and installed using appropriate hose clamps. I routed the hoses as close to the unibody framing member as I could so as to keep it away from the engine, belts, accessories, etc. Anything that could damage the hose was avoided. Of course, you'll need to add all of the fluids and connect all of the fuel lines, etc etc etc, but at this point you are ready to start her up. Happy boosting! *If there is anything that I have left out or if there is something that you would like to add or comment on, please email me with the details! |